Episode 311 - Michele Satchell Transforms Your Life and Business Without Burnout

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[SPEAKER_06]: Welcome to Wealth the Academy podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: everyone, this is your host, Paul Lawrence Van, hosting well-flacademy podcast, and our mantra, and our subtitle as well, is more than just money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And today you're really in for an exciting time because we have a remarkable guest on by the name of Michelle Satchel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's going to be providing us with some content-rich information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's really going to make a difference in your life, but not only yours, but mine as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is Michelle Satu here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing I want to pass on to you is a little bit of more information just as we get started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Michelle Satu is a certified speaker coach and trainer with the John Maxwell team, who have a 31 year career in the US federal government.

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[SPEAKER_00]: retire early to help higher-to-even women shift their mindsets and fully claim lives of fulfillment and impact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And today she's going to really be a gesture of amazing asset to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is one of my cohorts in the speaking business and she delivers an amazing speech in which she'll share with us a little bit later today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So today on the show, we are on it to welcome Michelle, someone who walks the talk of transformation, resilience and purpose, whether you're burnt out, you're in for more alignment between your values and your work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a time to build a courage to make a big life pivot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to miss this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so let's get started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing I want to talk about, of course, is Michelle's unique experience, her training.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, the amazing work she did for 31 years with the federal government.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my first question, Michelle, is this, your journey started with adversity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had a speech impairment, challenging family dynamics, growing up with limited resources, what was the moment or series of moments where you realized you didn't want those circumstances to define your life?

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[SPEAKER_04]: started to see that I didn't want to live like that when I got older.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That if and when I have a family, I want it my family to have a better life than what we were experiencing in our own life at the time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And the challenging thing where I would say the sad thing is a lot of people didn't know what we were experiencing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They didn't know the stuff that was going on behind those closed doors because we didn't talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, some of the neighbors were probably going through the same thing, but because people that in talk, they didn't know because I went through a very similar situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, very similar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just goes to show you how to be at an overcommer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're able to overcome it and hurtles in life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It takes you a lot of skills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, for sure, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So thank you for sharing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you had a successful high-level career in the federal government, including serving as a senior advisor and working on high visibility projects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where were some of the biggest lessons you learned there, both about leadership and about yourself?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, so when I think about this and when I think about leadership and looking back now, right, I think one of the biggest takeaways is the title money, the office, none of that makes you a leader.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You don't either have a title or six-feet your salary or the sweet office or the cool and awful to be a leader and even if you have those things it doesn't mean you are a leader.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because you don't want to follow you or don't want to follow you because you're not a good leader.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's correct.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You have no one following you, then what, you're not a leader, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then I think sometimes people think just because they don't have a title or they're not in a leadership position that they're not a leader, but they are a leader, you're a leader of your life, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And before work, exactly, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think the other thing as a leader, my biggest lesson, and that's because of

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[SPEAKER_04]: where it took me at the end of my career is that you have to take care of you first.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You have to practice to self-care.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't just mean like a pedicure manicure, that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, take it on to rest, to take care of your body, to eat right a lot of times.

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[SPEAKER_04]: As leaders, we're rushing through meetings, eating through lunch,

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[SPEAKER_04]: We need to take the time to really like have a lunch break.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Not only just to eat, but also to give your brain just a little bit of rest, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And to come back ready for the next part of the day, just taking vacation time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of times I didn't take vacation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, I feel like I had time because I had so much to do and so much on my plate.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And just resting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Here are you and fill them myself back up so that I could be the best version of me when I am in the office or for my family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're getting that stress off you because it's not a lot of stress.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, working out, taking a walk, even if it's just taking a walk outside of the building, you know, a breathing exercise for me, were crucial towards that latter part when I was dealing with the burnout.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember my husband used to joke around with me and say,

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[SPEAKER_04]: He says, rest is not a luxury.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, oh, I know I know, but rest is not a luxury.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Our body needs it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Our mind needs it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, yes, it's staying itself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So those were some of the key lessons among many more, but yes, those were some of the key ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you, you hit it right on the head because when you look at this hard to lead others when you can't lead yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because you haven't gotten adequate rest, that impacts decisions, but it's just so much.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's a little bit more fact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a little bit more fact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But sure, but sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So mindset shift is central to your work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What does change in your thoughts to change the world really look like in practice for someone who's been stuck our disillusion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going through it today and today's work.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: change your thoughts change your world for me has been so critical in my life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I really think that that started so many years ago, at least at least 20 over 20 years ago, huh, and for me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was about, how can I shift my mindset to see the positive and things versus the negative?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because it's easy to focus on the negative group, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: But how could I shift it to focus more on the positive and find something good in the situation?

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[SPEAKER_04]: What went right versus always what went wrong or what could go wrong?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And for me, it was also about changing the way I speak, what I say, how I think,

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[SPEAKER_04]: our brains are wired to be negative.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But most of the thoughts are negative and they're the same thoughts every day.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so our power is in our ability to shift how we think and shift how we talk to ourselves.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so a lot of times we find ourselves, say, oh, I'm not good enough for that job.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we don't even apply for a job.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But what if we switched it and said, I am more than enough of that job.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm more than capable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Overpowerful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Overpowerful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Overpowerful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And for the job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was for me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Just that simple flip or switch right there changes things.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you hear me talk a lot in my keynote.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'll say, catch it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: challenge it, change it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: When you notice yourself thinking or speaking negatively or or thinking or speaking in ways that don't align with what it is you want for your life, you've got to catch it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You can tell when you're not, when you're not, when you're not on point, when you're not on point, you can tell that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Catch it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, challenge it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Is that really true?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Does that line up with what I want?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because we want to speak and think like the things that we want to show up in our life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because we are bringing that into our lives.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And the way we catch it, challenge it, and then we change it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We turn it around to a thought and words that line up with what we want.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a track more of what we want.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Then we can have those things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like you said earlier, it's not only your professional life, but it's your personal life as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't separate them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice to read them at the door, but a lot of times the things from work go into the personal life as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The things from work come home because if you're stressed out, you're stressed out, overwork, burnt out, it's coming home.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, for you at home, I started to impact my relationships with my husband or with my kids.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It impacted my health.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So when we can start to change it, everything starts with a thought.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Think about that, everything.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This, this podcast that we're on started with a thought.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Someone thought of the idea to have my cast and it all over time and look where we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and words as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And words.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They weren't there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It wasn't fair enough as fair, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: They were persistent and determined and they pursued it because it guess what?

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[SPEAKER_04]: It affected their actions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So being able to shift how we think and shift how we talk and taking control of that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: changes our lives.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We can change our relationships.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We can change our health.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We can change our careers.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We can change our businesses.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We can change pretty much every aspect by how we think.

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[SPEAKER_04]: When we change our thoughts, we change our people, the world, our corner of the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our lives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Without a doubt, and the thing about it is, we look at the

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's more than just one thing, but we try to get them aligned as best we can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the whole person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's what we used to say in the military.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The whole person concept is what we used to use.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the locality of an individual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now Michelle, you talked about burnout, which of course is area that you work on with your clients.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That you help people avoid what are warning signs you notice in your own life or in others and how do you help people Course correct before it becomes overwhelming to burn out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I got to be honest with you So as I was going through the burn out, I didn't see it as it was happening.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, wow I didn't see it initially as it was happening.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My husband could see it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Uh-huh

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[SPEAKER_04]: I couldn't see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He promised the changes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He was seeing the changes in me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think all I'm okay, I'm okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just got to get through this project.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just got to get through this, this other priority.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just got to get through things that are going to get better.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember even one day, it's fun to ask me this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember one day, and a senior executive that I worked with came into my office.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He shut the door, and he said to me, because he knew I had a lot going on.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There was a lot happening, there was a lot of change.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he said, Michelle, you know you can't move this pace a long time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You, if you do, if you try to do it, you're going to burn out and I was like, oh, no, I'm okay, I said that, he said, you know, and I'm like, I'm okay, I'm going to be all right, it's only temporary.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, he was telling me to change in terms of how I managed my calendar to not let people put so many meetings on my calendar that it was.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so hindsight, looking back, I can say, man, I was exhausted.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Mentally, physically, emotionally, brain, spiritually, like I was empty, depleted.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I had brain fall, I couldn't think clearly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I had insomnia, I couldn't hardly sleep at night.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Then I couldn't eat because I would try to eat things just with get all messed up, my stomach.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I had pain in my body, the stress was affected my body.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was going back and forth to the doctor.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They were trying to figure out what was going on, but nothing was showing up on the tent to say, this is wrong, but here's the deal.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Stress will attack your body.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you're well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I call it the silent assassin.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because you don't even see it happening.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not showing up on the extreme.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's not showing up on the typical exams that they may run, but it's going to damage behind the scenes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's all of those things, my mind, my body.

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[SPEAKER_04]: the exhaustion, man, even if I did get a better night's sleep, I won't say a good night's sleep, because it was really not a lot of sleep on the mind, all the shots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the next thing and the next thing I've arrived.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But when I did get a little bit more sleep, but still woke up feeling like I was exhausted, like I hadn't slept at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I heard a flood flow.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and so just wondering is this just the way it's going to be for me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I started to wonder is this just the way it's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I thank God that after talking my husband was pointing things out to me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, EKG, all kinds of tests being run on me because that day I came in there, I was a mess and I was wondering, I remember lying in that bed and I looked at all, I kept wondering like, how, no, what did I care?

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[SPEAKER_04]: How did I get laying there like that?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And my husband, I told you before said he was preparing himself to be alone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was that that really close.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was that close and so I decided then that I had to fight.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I had to fight to come back to reclaim my life, to fight for my life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so in the process of doing that, I got to coach, I got to therapist.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I like, I disrupted everything that was for me because I wanted something more than what I was experiencing at that time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And in the process of doing the therapy and having a coach I learned I learned breathing breathing techniques are real the calm down the anxiety the calmness and being able to do that throughout the course of the day I shared that with one of my coaching clients today we did the exercise.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Right, then in there, in terms of how we breathe and the tools we have, are you the last tapping for the right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I've done that mine for this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, mindfulness meditation.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm just getting connected with my body and notice what I was feeling.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Not that I had to suppress it, but what am I feeling?

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[SPEAKER_04]: This tightness in my stomach, the butterflies, the nervousness, the tightness in my shoulders, and just all of like assessing how am I doing from head to toe, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I did yoga.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I practice affirmations of all of the positive different than you routine.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I have my gratitude time, my prayer time, my devotional's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if I tell you up, rakey, well, if the new prayer prayer prayer, you have all of those amazing options there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yes, some people don't have those options.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have one or two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had many, which fact that you incorporated them made all the difference.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I show my clients how they can incorporate some of these same techniques and tools to help them even before they get to burn out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, because they get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might be on the other side,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I did a spiritual coaching, and it has a lot of those applications in it as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not only, you know, the student appears when the, the teacher appears when the student appears, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great example.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can practice it on myself and also incorporate it with my students as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and if not the beauty of it though, we learn so much and they don't have the necessary experience everything that we experience because we can share the tools and techniques and strategies that we found that worked that they can try for sure for sure well I tell you we all glad that you would make made that transition back over to being who you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we also know, I know with me that I came from very humble beginnings and well, let's just face it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was poverty 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so my whole thing was and what I think what you're saying is you were seeking excellence because you know what you had been through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to go through that, what I grew up and I'm the same way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you've got to do push yourself extra hard because you know what's at stake.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, extra, extra hard because we don't want to go down that path.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't return to that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I gave myself a few options of going back, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: But you were pursuing excellence and pursuing excellence really.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Every day, that was my prayer.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Lord, help me be an example of your excellence and everything I do and everything I say with the people I come in contact with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because I have to, I'm a representative of kids as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm thinking.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Now I show up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's who you were actually working for.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're working for him right now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you made the bold decision to retire early in 2019 from a six-figure career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What fears came up in making that leap and how did you manage to move through them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the trepidation with any change that's going on, that you were making at, okay, so I've been working with this organization for 30, some odd years, now I'm going to transition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was that like with their fears and what, what did you see perhaps could go wrong

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I was almost like, what, what did I fear?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was so afraid, Paul, because here's the truth.

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[SPEAKER_04]: At the time I made that decision, I wasn't at a age where I could retire.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I hadn't hit the minimum retirement age to be able to retire from the federal government.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay, and collect a pension at that time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What I had to do is resign from my position

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[SPEAKER_04]: until I hit, which wasn't until six years, five years later, okay?

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's the mod.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so, yes, I had a lot of fear.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Number one, I fear whether or not I was making the right decision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: In my going to lose everything.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I work so hard to create and build with my husband for our family.

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[SPEAKER_04]: and they didn't see that we wanted to create for our family.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We were at two daughters in school.

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[SPEAKER_04]: One was at Climpson about the graduate and one hosted a Carolina University at some more time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So they could finish school and get their degrees.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And can we afford for me that even do this?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And can I do this?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And how's it going to play out in the end?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Of course you got people in your ear do when they find out if like, what are you pulling?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you sure you want to come over here?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I work like I offer so I could have went somewhere else but what I also knew call is who was being called somewhere else as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The board.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was being called somewhere else

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[SPEAKER_04]: And there was a better plan for me, even though I had plans, Paul, I was like, I'm I'm going to I'm going to hit the SES level and I'm going to do this and that you know when I started my career as a young 20 something you want to go to the top right you want to go all the way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I'm going to get out yes, at first I felt a little bit like man you didn't quite hit your goal that you said you were going to do you just a little bit from there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But at the same time, I remember my mom kept saying to me, is what good is it for you to make all that money?

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you as sick as you are, dealing with what you're dealing with, going back and forth to the doctors and doing all of, you know, the impact is on your body.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And my husband, Sam, I don't care about that money.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't care about you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't want you to be around.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was scared to death that day I went to the office to give my papers that I'm I'm rezani.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't know what they were going to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Believe it, I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was a shocker, but looking back, I realized it was the best decision that I could have made for myself.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And sometimes the thing that we're holding on to so closely is the very thing we need to make it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what it was for me as scared as I was, as terrified as I was, it was sucking the life out of me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I had to make a change and my husband was adamant to something he's to change.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He didn't want to lose me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the long term aspect of it, that's that's what he was looking at.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I admit your husband.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's just a great man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He helped me with my speech on a very early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll never forget it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That is Eric Sacho.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That is who he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eric, it helped me out for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was thankful for it too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like people say, don't block your blessing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you say what he said, I'm like, I can incorporate that in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for high-achieving women trying to balance career, family, and personal, such as you, growth, what are some of the strategies you teach about setting boundaries and saying, no, are redefining success?

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[SPEAKER_00]: similar to type experiences as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, one thing I tell people now that I have learned is that no saying no is actually a practice of self care.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Taking care of ourselves by being able to say no because saying no allows us to say yes to the things that really matter for us.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so for too long, I sacrificed things

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[SPEAKER_04]: saying yes to things that I shouldn't have been saying yes to.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then the other thing I had to realize is us being able to say no to things that really don't align with where we are in life or what's important to us or the vision that we have or the goals at all.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Us being able to say no to

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[SPEAKER_04]: courageously, right, and only unapologetically, we actually get to start teaching people how to treat us in the process.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So what I learned is I was teaching people that it's okay for Michelle the work crazy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was working more than I was living.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was working more working when I wasn't working.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was thinking about working.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I had to actually teach people how to treat me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: that I'm not going to be available all the time, you know, check in the phone all the time, all the time, all the time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so those are part of the boundaries, like not bringing the work home, you know how much I brought, work home to work on, even after I done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the reason you never went home?

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[SPEAKER_04]: What's the reason you're home?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we have those boundaries to separate it so that

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[SPEAKER_04]: When you're at home, you can be present with the people that are home, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you can be arrested for yourself and that you can do some of the things you enjoy doing because Paul, I have stopped doing any of the things I enjoy doing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's probably how I got burned out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't do any of the things that I enjoy things that I love that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, set me on fire, simple things, even just dance.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's silly and have fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And get in that balance with work life, personal life, for children, and then, me time, you have it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Me time, just scheduling that end.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then I remember getting to the point where I put my phone in the bathroom.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My phone and my company's little phone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I put it away from me so that wouldn't hear if it didn't or if I did anything, even if it was in my bedroom or I like separated it from me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that I could just have that because sometimes you wake up in the morning and all you hear are some of those things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a lot of questions, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That things come from me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I needed to have that as a boundary so that I could say, okay, I need this time right now to just get myself together.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I can have my quiet time to fill myself up, to do my devotions, to do my prayers, to do my meditation, all the things I need to do, so that when I do step into that office, I'm ready.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: When I do step home, I can kind of take a moment to regroup.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let go of what happened there and come in and be present for.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Has a recuperate and regroup?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, so those boundaries and blocking sometimes that became something that I started doing as well during that time, but I found it was a challenge sometimes because

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[SPEAKER_04]: I had that then accustomed to you just make yourself available, but when you've got time off so did you have time to work on that what really matters and get that taking care of instead of you just answering everybody else's calls and their requirements and what they need done and you're stuff not getting done because you have the time made for it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's something that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: started to become more important to me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I would say sometimes it's challenging because as a leader, you're in so many different meetings.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Back to see you in those meetings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we had some situations where we would have to work negotiate in one of the embassies in Washington on Connecticut Avenue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't go home that night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I stayed all night went to the Pentagon gym and then we went to negotiate, of course, was sleepy out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was my leadership and I. And, but you know, it's what they expected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's what they expected, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's what you, you adapt to what the expectation is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But the funny thing is it was later after I was gone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember a comment someone had made to me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And she said, uh, we can't blame them for treating you like a workhorse if you just kept getting the work done exactly and I will work if it's hard that's as much time as you're given.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's for sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: As much as you get done, that's what they will give you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So it's on us to take care of us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's one each one of us as leaders to take care of ourselves and make the time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: to prioritize what matters most for us and what we value most and make it yourself a priority in making it ready to put up all making ourselves a priority.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So when I left I said I'm prioritizing me for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm prioritizing Michelle and putting me first my health first and and that's when I decided to leave.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, I'm not saying that everybody has to leave, in order for that to be the answer, but because of where I was and the impact that it had on me, the burnout and where I was, that was my answer for me and truth be told.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think this is my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm a person of faith.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I believe guy knew that if longs, everything's okay.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Michelle's not Michelle can keep on keeping on doing all of this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I got to shake it up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I got to get her attention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when we look at it now that you're explaining it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's what it was.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to get her attention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, there's one of those things where once we learned the lesson, and I think the lesson was God was, okay, so you can spend more time with me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: God, where you got to God and you know, you got to that point where he position you so that you had the most people don't have the opportunity to get her to retirement.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The print of the book.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And while here's the blessing in that so you heard me say at a very young age I decided I want a better life I watched my grandparents struggle even after they retired

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[SPEAKER_04]: So when I first started my job, I immediately started putting money away.

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[SPEAKER_04]: As soon as I was eligible to put money in that TSP, I was pulling in there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I never had that kind of money before anyways, I want to go missing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I kept putting in a way and believe or not, Paul that came to pay me off so much more later on.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And over 30 years later, I'm not old enough to retire to go back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I also had done some things for myself that allowed me to be able to.

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[SPEAKER_04]: To make to make that decision.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to make the amount of money that I was making when I was working full time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I could we could my husband.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I we could afford for me to just say goodbye.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: When this guy took care of all my needs, all his graduated from college, every that's one of those kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They clumps and tiger and a lot of shanticle.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I have two others that graduated, but the beauty of it is all the things I was so worried about, that was so great of and losing it all.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And even myself, what am I going to do?

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[SPEAKER_04]: But there was a plan that was bigger than me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it was my plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, God, he puts it out there for us and favor is what I call it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Michelle, you speak, train, and coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are some of the tools of practices you believe for most powerful and helping people share from feeling meant for more to actually live in it every day?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So here's where,

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to say the things that made the difference from me, okay, from leaving to actually living it, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Number one, I think we have to get honest with ourselves.

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[SPEAKER_03]: For sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Really, like, just get real and honest with ourselves about where we are.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Are you really fulfilled or happy or satisfied or do you feel like there's more for you?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Is there more for you?

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[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of times, we just settle.

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[SPEAKER_04]: For sure.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We just say things are fine, but deep down, Paul, we know now that we might more or more.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We just accept what life is handed us, but my thing is let's get honest with ourselves and and not just by what other people think we should want or what society says, but what do you want really want?

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[SPEAKER_04]: you really want.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Get clear on that because I think what I have found most people that I have coached when I ask a question they don't know what they really want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're still trying to figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're still trying to figure it out or they're still trying to hold on to something they thought they wanted to do from years ago or that someone told them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So then I tell them you got a real magic intervention for your life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, that gives you hope and you don't have to hold on to what you thought you want it maybe when you were 20 and you're 30 that was something but now maybe things have changed your life has changed you're in a different phase of life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So what is it that you want right now in your life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, and don't go about what people say because some people try to talk you out of it for sure I gave you that weekend.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He gave me the vision for speaking Yeah, it didn't seem like the like it seemed crazy at the time, but I'm a speaker now I'm an intern.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes, I'm a speaker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's go into that right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I was really honored in your presence at the speaker's showcase.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she had this speech.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Michelle had to speech title.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, fight for it because it's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm telling you, I've said they're not listening to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, it really got to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It got to everyone in that auditorium.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was at the AFI there in Silver Spring, Maryland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you like to share about that experience, Michelle?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it impacted us all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they, she delivered her speech at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because always the best one goes last when I'm telling you, she was like, there's no doubt.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I knew it because it's your thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It has so much meaning to me, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: When I was at my lowest, when I was feeling empty, when I was feeling like I was stressed, I was anxious, I was burnt out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And quietly, I wanted more.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I wanted more, but at the time, like, how am I going to have more?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Can I really have more?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so after experiencing when I experienced with the emergency room, visit, I call that a divine disruption.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was as a behind disruption once that happened and I decided to fight for it then it was I started to recognize you know what I'm worth this my family is worth it my health is worth it my life life

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I'm going to fight for it with everything I got.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm giving it everything I got.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I had to work on this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, that's for the fight begins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the heart.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The fight begins in our mind, in our mind, can be used for us or against us.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's the weapon.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But how you going to use it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So decisions.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's so fighting for it meant for me it meant shifting how I think changing how I think

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[SPEAKER_04]: You heard me earlier say, catch it, challenge it, change it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was part of the fight, change in how I think and how I talk because some stress can be brought on by how you think.

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[SPEAKER_04]: How you talk it to yourself, how are we looking at things?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then reimagining the vision because you're not married to the old vision of what you thought and you can have a new vision.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So just taking some time to really think about, what does that look like for me?

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[SPEAKER_04]: My vision looked like to me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Started to see myself as speaking.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know how crazy it was, Paul, I took a famous speaker's body, speaking to the crowd, chopped their head off and put my head on there and put it on my vision board.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's imagination.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And imagine that I had to visualize this thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I visualizing it, me walking, talking, like being a speaker, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I wrote that vision out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I had on my phone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I had a screenshot on there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then taking the time to feed our soul.

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[SPEAKER_03]: For sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's the reason.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We've got to do it because it's going to take something higher than us, Paul, to get through this fight.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And no one else can do the fight for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, everyone had to throw it out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We have to do it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so part of fighting for it means you got to decide number one you're going to fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get in the fight.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You got to get in the fight.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So deciding that I'm a fight for it because I'm worth it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The more the thing that you want to help, the relationship, the career, the finances, whatever it may be for you, you decide that it's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then you have to commit to it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It can't just be when you feel like doing it, committing to doing it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Decide, commit, and then fight for it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: every single day fight for what it is that you want and I can tell you that it is absolutely worth it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The life that I'm living today is better than I ever imagined.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm happier, I'm healthier, I'm enjoying my life, I've got peace.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was one of the things I wanted more

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so it's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So fight for it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's my message for everyone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Just fight for it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so here's what I would like to share with your audience.

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[SPEAKER_04]: is I have a book coming out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's called Evolve freely.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It is a life changing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I will be sharing things on social media soon, just letting you know when that release is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But fight for it because is worth it was a process of me evolving, evolving to become

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[SPEAKER_04]: the woman, the speaker, the coach, the trainer that I am today.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And believe it or not, author, who would have thought back then that that's where I would be today.

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[SPEAKER_04]: If you want to tell me that back in 2019, I would have laughed at you and thought you were crazy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But as a result of deciding that I'm going to fight for it, that I'm committed and that, and that, and just going to work and fighting for it and fighting for it is taken action.

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[SPEAKER_02]: right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Do you think about it?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And as a result of that, I stand before you the day saying, man, I am not the same woman back then.

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[SPEAKER_04]: My daughter makes a joke.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Paul, I gotta tell you this.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to say one day when it was like a couple of years ago.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I left in 2019.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I gone through, I got my certification and speaking and coaching out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: One day my daughter said to me, she said, Mom,

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know who that woman was back then, but I don't know who that woman was.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I went through all of that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't bring her back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We don't want her back here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We want her to come back like you are back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We got our mom back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so, yeah, it was a beautiful feeling just to come through it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think what I want most people to take

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[SPEAKER_04]: I came through it, they can't do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They can't as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: People now, we rose from the bottom.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They can't have a product where you start at.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's really late.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No matter where you are in your life right now, it's not too late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's never, never.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, it's never too late.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that you can do like, if we can do it, they can do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I wouldn't give people hope to let them know that even with the world as crazy as it is right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They can still have more.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They can still change their lives.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I would say the biggest thing is the mindset, how we think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, we think it's going to change everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Definitely, definitely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So looking ahead, what is the next big vision for you, Michelle?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, you have a significant choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have a book, something else that you'd like to share.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And how do you hope people walking away from this conversation with a plan with a prayer today?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I have the bookie ball freely that'll be coming out later and I'll go over time frame and evolve freely the signature courses tied to that as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I want to start having hosting my own courses as sharing inspiration, helping people to overcome the hurdles, the obstacles, the challenges, the limitation that they're facing in their lives so that they can get to where they want to be in their life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so you ask me about how they can, what do I want them to take away?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I know you're gonna think it's cliche, but it really is not.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Is that when you change your thoughts, you really can change your life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: When you need change how we think, it changes everything.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It changes everything.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so we can talk to ourselves.

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[SPEAKER_04]: How we think about ours with what we wanna see happen in our life.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Instead of saying, I'm not enough, say, I'm more than enough.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Instead of saying, I can't, I can.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Instead of saying, you know, that or instead of trying to be perfect or have everything just right, recognize that you have everything you need right now where you are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: All you have to do is take the first step.

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[SPEAKER_00]: saw this near that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's all that's needed.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't try to figure it all out and I'm guilty of that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Sometimes, Paul, you know, you won't know all the answers I was going to turn out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I promise you, if you just take the first step, the next step will be revealed to you and then the next one, as you take action and move.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Faith without works is dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You got to the kind of take action.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I tell you, thank you so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, our amazing guests, and I told you all in the beginning, Michelle Shath, Satu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the entrepreneur, certified speaker, coach, and trainer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's one of the best, and I saw her in witness her speech.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was just amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just amazing for everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone who ever hear that speech, you would not walk away the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: as you arrive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You will, when you depart, you will be different because that speech just hits home on so many courts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It really hits home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we want to definitely thank you, Michelle, for being the honored guest today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And thank you so much for sharing your expertise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do know also, I don't want to leave this out that you went to Barcelona recently.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Barcelona was an incredible experience.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Some of the lines, to be able to see that the message resonated, the latter where you were, is like a global message to fight for it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I remember a lady saying to me at the very end call saying, Misha, I'm where you were.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But now I know what to do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: She said, now I know what to do because of you, because of what you just share.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And this is what I'm gonna do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that's what it's all about being able to impact people, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that they can make changes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that we can help them to change their lives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's so bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to your likes, so others may see what's possible for them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not in our Barcelona.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was nice.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Barcelona was beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The people were beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was a lot of people who provided this environment for us to have this experience and for us to use our voice to make it impact.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was just, it was a blessing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was honored to be there, but I felt so grateful and blessed to be able to do to be there, to allow, to see what God has done in my life, and let others be able to see that what he did for me can do for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's possible that you're in and even over the over the ocean, it's probably

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, all right, we're thank you so much and what we want people to know is that this particular episode here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: take a place of course today and it's going to be episode 311.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you're going to Apple Podcasts, go out there and provide Michelle, Sasha with a five-star rating and review because all of the content that she provided today, she's doing awesome work and it's just my honor to know her and her husband.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean they're really wonderful people and that GSU community.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's really amazing, but I want you all to go out right and review this particular episode with Michelle Satu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When God made her, he threw away the key.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you all for having me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I still appreciate you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, I'm honored to be here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you all for listening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In this, of course, it's recorded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But thank you all for listening and recommend it to your family, your friends, and your colleagues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And before we go, Michelle, I'm going to press this closure, but hang on and we'll talk a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have a great day, everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see you on the next episode.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you for listening to this episode with Paul and his guest.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I hope you enjoyed this episode and Paul requests that you rate and review this episode and others on Apple Podcasts.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And wherever you listen to podcasts, view all wealth Academy podcast episodes at www.wealthacademypodcast.com.