Episode 313 – Rovan Deon The Breakthrough Coach on Mastering Transformation and Unlocking Human Potential

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[SPEAKER_03]: a wonderful day today and we have just a tremendous guest on that I'm so glad that he's here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's somewhat I've known for quite a few years and he continues to do tremendous work and I want to introduce him now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So welcome to Welp Academy podcast, Rovon Dion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Good day and how you doing my friend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Paul, just doing great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My friend, thank you for having me today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: honored to have you on here today.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now get ready everyone, contact your family, your friends and your colleagues so that they can tune in and they can listen to what Rovon has to share.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But before we get started, let me tell you a little bit about him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Rovon Dion is the breakthrough coach.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Rowvan is widely known as a breakthrough coach, he's a master of transformation who helps people break through emotional blocks, crush fear and awaken their highest potential so that they can be unleashed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: in your life and in your business.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's very important.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was over three decades of experience, even though he looked like he's 20, of course, no development.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robot masterfully blends the science of the mind and the art of lasting change.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He is a certified master NLP practitioner, certified hypnosis.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now that's very interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And holds multiple certifications and strategic intervention

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[SPEAKER_03]: through the world-renowned Robbins Mondays training.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Founded by Tony Robbins and Klo Mondays.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Through his breakthrough coaching method, Rovon fuses neural linguistic programming.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It noses as strategic intervention to create deep, rapid, and lasting transformation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Helping clients not only melt away limiting beliefs, but also step into a new identity, anchored in confidence, clarity, and purpose.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm here to tell you this is so needed today, given the society in which we're in and given

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's things that we're saying each day that they say is called unpresident.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So without further ado, I'm going to get started with these interview questions for Rovon and he's going to help pave the way for us all to greater understanding more ways than more knowledge that we can move forward and navigate life as we know it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So Rovon, let's start at the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What led you to become a results coach and founder of the results now group?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Was there a defining moment in your life or career when you realize coaching would be your purpose?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, Paul, I'll tell you something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This may sound very, very strange.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They say you can't coach people, unless you've been there yourself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually ran away from it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of like when when when when you get hit with your purpose, it really scares that, but Jesus out of you and so what I did in my friend is I ran away from it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would I would call myself everything else but a coach.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said, oh, wow, I've been teaching for all over 20 some years in the educational system.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, wow, I can put on the labels teacher.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna be that but not a coach.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said, wow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now I write books.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a free time bestselling author as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, maybe I'm an author.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm an author.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm an artist.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm an author.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then all of a sudden somehow I got into real estate and started being certified by the state of New York to teach all new real estate agents and then ended up writing a best sell around of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I said, you know what, well, maybe I'm going to be this real estate teacher.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But no, not this thing called coach and I tell you something, I took surveys, I took, you know, how they do the, the, the mind breaks and all of these assessments and every time it came back as coach and I would take it again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm like, no, that can't be right, that can't be right, just to make sure and it was the fear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was really the fear that was holding me back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so what I end up doing to make a long story short is I ended up going to Tony Robbins at a UPW event to bust over the open that fear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, you know what, game on, here I go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am now the breakthroughs of sex coach and I'm leading fully into that now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, that's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is one of those things that we go through.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we, you know, man search for answers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, look at that big answer, professionally here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you look at that big game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You look at that authorship.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And by the way, you became you a three-time that's still an author, is that correct?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, hopefully the fourth one will be, is that the editor has

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got my fingers crossed on that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But what I want to do with that is turn that one as an adventure story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I want to see if I can turn that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about living a big dream here and playing a big game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see if I can turn that into a Netflix series.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wonderful.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm pulling for you, my friend, because more people need to hear what you have to say.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I put you into that category when I define outstanding people as let your life shine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So others may see what is possible for them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Robon Dion can do that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's look at, when we look at results, when you talk about results with your clients, how do you define success both in business metrics and in deeper personal fulfillment?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And how do you help people align those two?

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[SPEAKER_03]: First of all, the business metrics and then the deeper personal fulfillment from a success standpoint.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's a great question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm, I'm so blessed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now let me just start there because I get a chance to be that person who actually get a chance to make a personal blueprint of what you say success is for you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what I mean by that is that I see people try to define what success is for themselves.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But what's really important is that you define what success is going to look like for you because it's so distinctly different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And once we go through the process that we go through, I have a 12 week program in which we are again to do that work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have them to look at what it is that they really want for themselves, but I have them to do it in such a way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: where they are definitely being fulfilled in what they say they want, not just some goal because I work with the whole person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, we may be working together in their business.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, and at the same time, working on your relationship and nutrition.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like...

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the whole person because, yeah, yeah, I believe in the whole person.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we define what those successes are in your health, in your finances, in your business, your personal life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We define what those things are for you and we go after it and you know what the training that I now have, so blessed to have it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I get a chance to make those quick and lasting changes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, definitely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's so needed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, oftentimes when sometimes people like when I was in the military, I lean a lot to the professional side because I really wanted to use it since, but at times it kind of went and put my personal life at risk, meaning doing the my monetary 22 years in the Air Force, I never had a family never got married, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I sacrifice that doing those 22 years for the professional accomplishment.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And thank God, I have retirement the rest of my life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, Paul, that is so great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you bring up a very good point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the kind of thing I was just on with a client earlier today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, you know, the balance is sometimes what missing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we, we hone in because we feel that we have to give up something and already get something else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I really do believe in the power of having it all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like having the distinction of having it all, what does it that you really want?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Unless just make that happen for yourself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Such that you don't feel that you've got to give something up in order to have something or leave something behind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Unless it doesn't serve you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, it's watching today's show and Mr. Grant crimes in her name.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Chandra Grimes, and that's one of the questions that came up with her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She said for while she would could not imagine herself doing an interview on TV.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're like, wait a minute.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Whoa, one of these amazing shows and and everything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She said that she was shy about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She said, I want to be in front of the camera.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She wanted to be behind the camera.

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[SPEAKER_03]: John Grant, her name, I messed it up earlier, but what she said was, she had to push me beyond her limiting beliefs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And for someone of her magnitude to say that, really speaks volumes about what a lot of people may be going through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a very good point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what I found over the years, Paul, is that at the core, no matter what title we put on ourselves, where we are a millionaire, a billionaire, or

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, whatever title that you have at the core, we're all human beings that have certain needs that we have to fulfill, and we all carry these little bit to beliefs, which is why I really focus in on that with my clients, for sure, for sure, and let's look a little bit at mindset.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You often speak about breaking through fear.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What are the most common fears you see coaches or entrepreneurs getting stuck on?

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[SPEAKER_02]: See, the thing about the limited beliefs is a lot of time, people are unaware that they even have them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the scary part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're not even aware that they have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just know that they're either stuck, can't break through or just doesn't know how to move forward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It appears in those flavors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so when it comes to limited beliefs, the ones that really comes up a lot of time is I'm not good enough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I won't be loved.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Love always plays on the top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those are the top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, those are the top two, but the thing is about once we have those a bit go ahead, Paul.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and then how do you help them push beyond those seers?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's whether training comes in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's when the strategies come in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Newer

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[SPEAKER_02]: one of the quickest ways to break through those limited beliefs and fears and also strategic interventions and that's why I really wanted to go really deep into this because we have strategies in order to get people through those things.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, absolutely, and that's really remarkable.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And as you state, people don't know what they don't know, so you help them to know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No better, and once we know better, we hopefully do better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you're just kind of parroting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You sure you're going to keep it into my last session fall.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If there's more, I would.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I tell you, that's exactly what we did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing, the first one is awareness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, awareness.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And being vulnerable about that, just bring it to the forefront.

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[SPEAKER_02]: bring it out of your blind spot into the forefront of where this is a very first step because what's your where what's really holding you back now we can get to work at removing those limited

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[SPEAKER_03]: mentioned earlier that you've developed systems and frameworks that help coaches scale.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Could you walk us through one of your signature frameworks and this year a little bit and to hear a real life example of how a plant applied it and what shift it produced?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Great question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Great question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I do have a strategy and a framework that I call the becoming method and the becoming method is really towards my signature program and I tell you something very fascinating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really didn't know how fast it could work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When I first.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, developed it, but just recently, I brought on a new client and very, uh, this process just really and remarkable is he's been a professor at the university, he himself write books and he's just an extraordinary, very man, uh, he's done like Christian making films, like he, yes, very prestigious man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then all of a sudden, you know, we found ourselves in a session together and he didn't know which way to go, like he's done all these incredible things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But those spheres and limited beliefs started to creep right in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And when I tell you, within one session, one session not only did he begin to move what he really wanted to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He had already liked within a week, already had two new clients to write them memoirs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: These are some high-plemented memoirs that he's writing here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I tell him I said, well, what would it be like for you to have an extra $10,000 a month?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he was like, well, that would change everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said, great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And though now he's just got his first two clients, making well over 10 K already and we're just I haven't had my second session with him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we have that on wins.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's already an action-making, making that financial thing that he wanted to do, but not only that, he is also fulfilled in what he's doing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We just kind of feel what that is for him, define his outcomes, and we just went to work on it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: passion and purpose and his light bulb came on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and it goes back to the first question you said, the first thing I have them do is an assessment.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You have an assessment and that way through the responses are in are through taking the survey, for example, assessment.

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[SPEAKER_03]: People get to find out more about themselves because life really gets busy at times and people just don't look inward.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oftentimes people look outward.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Very true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Very true, very true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: 10 KM off.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's a good day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I figured if I could have my clients a big 10 KM off, they could easily get up to 100,000 to beyond.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's just that you don't know that you don't know what you don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, with me, I've I've spent way, like this year alone, I probably spent

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[SPEAKER_02]: close to 80,000 just on personal development.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just paid like $35,000 to be in this mass demand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the proximity is power.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So when my clients come to me, they get a chance to actually take benefit of that knowledge that I'm receiving.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So as you go about increasing your knowledge wisdom for your systems and your structures, you can pass that on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: to those amazing clients.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, burnout happens to be one of the big words that people are talking about no matter what industry it happens to be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It could be for, it could be business.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You name it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One big challenge, many coaches faces the scaling their business while maintaining balance and avoiding burnout.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How have you personally navigated that tension and what systems are disciplines?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Do you encourage for your clients to adopt?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So in other words, how do you personally navigate that tension itself to go with that burnout?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, one of the things that you got at first of all, you have to define a bit enough why for yourself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you have to have a big enough why a compelling future that's going to pull you towards that future and by you doing that alone helps you to be really passionate and not burn out now those times when you do feel overwhelmed and burnt out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are strategies that I use in which I deal a lot with state changes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is totally what Tony Robbins and Chloe Madonna says taught us to do is to be able to be the master of two things master of your emotions and master of your state change.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if you can master those two things, even there are times when I feel very tired, I'm burned out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I actually.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What my code is actually that I'm with right now is actually in Australia.

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[SPEAKER_02]: His name is Richmond Dean and Richmond Dean is is a revolutionary guy who's created the tiny challenge.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's all stereotypes because sometimes I'm on Australia time so that means that if I'm doing a workshop within a getting training I'm going from six o'clock in the morning to four a.m.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they'll have to have energy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have a distinction.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, of being 10 times more excited mastering my state and my energy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When you are trained to that level, you can change your energy, your state, in an instant, in that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I do try to pass that on to my clients because you know, as I know, said that, you know, being an entrepreneur and putting in those times and navigating those water can be quite exhausting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I tell you, you have a compelling future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know how to

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[SPEAKER_02]: game is over.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And having spent two weeks in Australia, the time differential makes a difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's brutal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's brutal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, you hear this about burnout, that about burnout.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So what you do is take people to that self-care realm, take it to that level and show them the

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[SPEAKER_03]: self-care is all about and how that can help them to avoid that burn out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's true, Paul.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I tell you the very first thing that when I work with a client, I have them do one thing that they probably have not quite done for themselves, and that is to choose and commit to themselves.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have them to choose them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because a lot of times the people that I meet that we meet in our circles, we're givers, we're servers and we put everyone else first.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what I do, the first thing I have my client to do is to choose themselves.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, that's a good choice too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and using when I do that, there's this lightness and this weight that's been lifted to know that, you know, that I matter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and that, and I'm worried about what I'm about to step into.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Tell me about a time when something you tried in coaching, business, or leadership fail, I didn't go as planned.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What did you learn from that and how did it define your approach moving forward?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'll tell you, I got one even better for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When I first started out as a coach, I failed miserably.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like we all do it's like it's like this thing called coaching and running of a business I I didn't know what to do because I only thing I knew is that I wanted to eventually when I got there when I got to that point you know I really knew I was coaching on the side but I hadn't fully leaned it I was running like I was running away I was I was kind of playing around with it

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm making a ton of mistakes and I tried this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, what I did was this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I went out to try to do everything, try to learn everything, as opposed to just taking what was needed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was trying to learn it all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And because I love learning, I was literally trying to learn it all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about overwhelm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Learning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I tell you in business I made a lot of mistakes because I was I at first I didn't treat it like a business I treated it like I would say more of a hobby that I really loved learning like kind of like how I have my six guitars that are over here I love playing guitar and it's a very passionate hobby but having a hobby and having a business or two separate things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I made a lot of mistakes of what I did is that I put myself in different masterminds in order to bring all those pieces together and some people's like wow 35 thousand dollars to be in a mastermind well that's why that's why you do it because you invest into yourself that's the greatest return on investment and you have to be able to go with someone who's done it before you so that's the real key so that you can so you can shorten time collapsed time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and not make those dreaded mistakes, that's very common when people first starting out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, and we don't want people to get the idea that, oh, failure is final.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It really is not final.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It actually at a stepping stone's to success.

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[SPEAKER_03]: For every step.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I was just reading something that was very recently around that is just like, you know, if you begin to look at failure as something that's first of all is part of the success process tell me any great

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Muhammad Ali, he came to greatest is that, you know, he was able to train and to fail Thomas Edison as far as the light bulb.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We know how many times, yeah, it's like, you got the failure, it's part of the process of the success.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you will not resuccess unless you fail.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But here's the thing, as you mentioned, it's learning the lessons that are inside of this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you fail forward, not failed backwards.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's all part of the process and people pretend and have this limited belief.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Talk about limited belief, that failure, the thing called failure is not part of success process.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The more you're going to fail, the more you're going to learn, the better off you, the better you're going to be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, that quote, that to be a coach you have to know, X amount more than your client.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you a student?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's very true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's because of investing in yourself and reading and going through the process of, oh, I made a mistake here, but I can recoup from it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and that's the important thing that we want people to take away from that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So thank thank you so much for sharing that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Rovon, looking further ahead, beyond revenue, reach what legacy of impact do you want to leave on your clients and beyond?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So what change in the heart's minds allows the people do you hope your work produces?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So what type of legacy do you want to leave?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Paul, when all is said and done, when all is said and done, I want to be that person who's lying there at end of life and said that I made a difference.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's very, very serious for me, very emotional for me because

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want people to have their lives.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want people to be fulfilled, but not only that, the reason I train so hard is because I want my work to have a ripple effect for generations to come.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's very possible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I want to do this work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's why I was so afraid at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, well, that what that tells me is that you care.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's important that you care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And what's that quote, people don't care how much you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They want to know how much you care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So a person can come in and they don't have any works on them, sort of speak as a speaker.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And people like, well, I can't rise to that level.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But if you come in and you share the fact that, oh, I mean, this mistake, that mistake, I had no control over this, but I was still a part of it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They can I go and fight with that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you for sharing that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So what advice do you have for aspiring coaches for someone who is just starting out as a coach who wants to transition into coaching that thing that you will run in a wayfront, especially in today's saturated market.

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[SPEAKER_02]: First of all, I would say, stop running.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think coaching is kind of like certain professions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For example, a firefighter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a calling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: police officers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's a calling because I know that if there's a fire this way, I'm running that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not going to choose a job where bullets are going to fly at me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not doing that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But coaching is sort of the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a calling and a calling is something that you will never know about how you run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There you are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so the first thing is stop running.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Coteing is a calling for someone because coaching is service to humanity at the highest level.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I would say for if there's any coaches out there or anyone who's wanted to do any sort of thing, like any change work that you know that you can make a difference, you have been chosen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: have been chosen and I would say, find the right people to align yourselves with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't be afraid to invest in yourself because that was one of the big mistakes that I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I try to do everything on YouTube and for free and I got everything in my bank account did not move.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So in other words, you're making a comparison between, do it yourself and then for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That remains you harrowing someone who's levels above you in terms of the expertise.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's another thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I tried to do it alone because I pride myself on being someone halfway intelligent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And says, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love to learn.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is my opportunity to learn, learn, learn, learn, learn.

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[SPEAKER_02]: five years went by seven years went by and I was still pretty much it in the same place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's why I don't do, that's one of the reasons that I don't do a course for people because even the lawman education for 20 something years, I can create a course like tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But what I found that most people don't complete them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they try to do it on their own also my process that I take my people on what I'm when I'm with them it is a done with you model yes done with you we walked we walked with those fires together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you may be in the deep end, but I will never let you drown.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, because I'm to like they said, Michael says, sometimes I got to let you take on a little bit of water to just so you really get it for yourself and learn what there is to learn, but I'll never let you drown.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When coming on board with me, you don't, you don't walk that journey alone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's no more being by yourself trying to do it alone, trying to figure it out by yourself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you collapse time and you just move 10 times faster and it's just so much easier when you have a coach.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't agree more.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't agree more.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And as I mentioned before in earlier that I was going to read some more about

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[SPEAKER_03]: Robon's background.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to share that at this point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He is known for his rare ability to make them possible possible and today's society we need that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: educators, brain surgeons, and Ghostwriters to some of the world's most famous celebrities.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Moreover, his guidance has touched the lives of lawyers, Grammy-nominated authors, artists, filmmakers, and speechwriters for president, as well as family members of the hands of states of Africa.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And this showcases his versatility and profound impact across various people, businesses, and industries global.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, Rova, if you could share how people can get in touch with you, so they can sign up for your breakthrough coaching.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have that filler right now, people that someone needs this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They need to hear this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I mean, here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, if you are looking for your breakthrough, it's very easy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't do anything fancy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can find me on Facebook, on the Ravan Dion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the only thing you have to do is to private message me and just type breakthrough.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know that you're ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Ready to roll.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they can get your books on Amazon.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was looking over Amazon today and I saw four books there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, yeah, well, maybe I think one maybe maybe they did one in audio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I never know about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I hope there's an extra one there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Go to Amazon.com and look up Robon Dion and you'll see those books there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I saw it this morning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, so everyone, before we go, I want to really thank a robot for being our guest.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It has been a fantastic conversation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So thank you for sharing so transparently, your journey, your insight and tools you use to help others truly transform.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Before we wrap up, is there one final message or piece of wisdom you'd like to leave with listeners?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that would be outstanding.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say that if this calls to you and you will know if it does, if it touches your heart, you will know you know that you are meant for more, and that you have a purpose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you want to do that, I would say just lean into it, trust, have faith, and then reach out to the people that can help you to do that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Absolutely, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So Robon, thanks again for being at guest today and to everyone listening and who those who will listen on an archive, stay tuned for our next episode.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Until next time, keep pushing, growing and bringing your impact into the world and don't forget go to Apple Podcasts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I'm centrally locating all the episodes now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: pumped on episode 313 with Robon Dion, provide a five-star rating and also a review of this particular episode and continue to be richly blessed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I'm your host Paul Lawrence Band.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you all so much for being amazing guests.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And if Robon Dion, you have a wonderful day, my friend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, Paul.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you so much and audience.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for listening.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, for a lot.

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